<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss
version="2.0"
xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
> <channel><title>Comments on: The Economic Stimulus Check Means Higher Taxes To Come.</title> <atom:link href="http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/</link> <description>A place to discuss money...for the rest of us.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:21:23 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: PF Buzz</title><link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/#comment-26573</link> <dc:creator>PF Buzz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 06:06:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1481#comment-26573</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;The Economic Stimulus Check Means Higher Taxes To Come....&lt;/strong&gt;
Keep this in mind - although the government sent you $600, they will be coming back with their other hand wide open asking for even more. Nothing is for free, they say&quot;¦....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Economic Stimulus Check Means Higher Taxes To Come&#8230;.</strong></p><p>Keep this in mind &#8211; although the government sent you $600, they will be coming back with their other hand wide open asking for even more. Nothing is for free, they say&#8221;¦&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tim</title><link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/#comment-26490</link> <dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:21:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1481#comment-26490</guid> <description>i press post too quickly.  i&#039;m rather tired of hearing people talk about the rich got richer.  if the rich did get richer, then it is obvious the economy was doing well, otherwise, there wouldn&#039;t have been money to get rich off of.  getting rich also means there were plenty of people spending, perhaps too much spending.  things don&#039;t happen in a vacuum, there were more than ample opportunities for everyone across the board to invest; however, we had a lot of people choosing to spend and to spend beyond their means.  there have been and are far too man people who chose to spend rather than to save, and somehow think that the govt should step in because the rich got richer.  if you didn&#039;t get richer over the past 5, 7, 10, 15, 20 years, then you spent too much and didn&#039;t save/invest enough.  401k and ira investing is far greater, despite all the doomsday talk about negative savings rate (which BTW doesn&#039;t include these figures).  people, especially politicians on both sides, are taking a short term view, and as savvy pf gurus that we all are, should be looking long term and ignoring all the short term commentary.  if the economy is bad, then save more rainy day cash.  this is what i&#039;ve been doing since seeing how many people were taking out interest only and ARM mortgages, instead of buying a house 3 years ago.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i press post too quickly.  i&#8217;m rather tired of hearing people talk about the rich got richer.  if the rich did get richer, then it is obvious the economy was doing well, otherwise, there wouldn&#8217;t have been money to get rich off of.  getting rich also means there were plenty of people spending, perhaps too much spending.  things don&#8217;t happen in a vacuum, there were more than ample opportunities for everyone across the board to invest; however, we had a lot of people choosing to spend and to spend beyond their means.  there have been and are far too man people who chose to spend rather than to save, and somehow think that the govt should step in because the rich got richer.  if you didn&#8217;t get richer over the past 5, 7, 10, 15, 20 years, then you spent too much and didn&#8217;t save/invest enough.  401k and ira investing is far greater, despite all the doomsday talk about negative savings rate (which BTW doesn&#8217;t include these figures).  people, especially politicians on both sides, are taking a short term view, and as savvy pf gurus that we all are, should be looking long term and ignoring all the short term commentary.  if the economy is bad, then save more rainy day cash.  this is what i&#8217;ve been doing since seeing how many people were taking out interest only and ARM mortgages, instead of buying a house 3 years ago.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KMC</title><link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/#comment-26489</link> <dc:creator>KMC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:15:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1481#comment-26489</guid> <description>from Pete: &quot;with the tax cuts revenues actually increased&quot;
That is dead wrong.  The Laffer curve and supply side economics have been abandoned by mainstream economists and have been for years.  The CBO, Treasury, and the Council of Economic Advisors all disagree that tax cuts pay for themselves in increased revenue.
Why do people keep clinging to this idea?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from Pete: &#8220;with the tax cuts revenues actually increased&#8221;</p><p>That is dead wrong.  The Laffer curve and supply side economics have been abandoned by mainstream economists and have been for years.  The CBO, Treasury, and the Council of Economic Advisors all disagree that tax cuts pay for themselves in increased revenue.</p><p>Why do people keep clinging to this idea?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tim</title><link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/#comment-26487</link> <dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:54:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1481#comment-26487</guid> <description>the economy is fine.  the economy did expand the past 7 years, hard to see with all the doomsdayers saying over and over and over again that the sky is falling.  we were supposed to be in a recession three quarters ago, then two quarters ago, then one quarter ago.  i&#039;m sure we&#039;ll get there considering all the self fulfilling prognosticating going on.  if the economy hasn&#039;t been doing so well the past 7 years then i&#039;m not sure why all the indices have increased over the past 7 years even with the current dip, but that is just me.
the post was heavily pro-dem over tones, yet the dems have controlled the house and senate the past 3 years and no one on either side has been willing to stop spending even in though the sky is falling.  even under clinton&#039;s budget surplus (republican control house and senate BTW), which didn&#039;t do anything to the national debt BTW, also made speculative assumptions that gave way to increased spending and never came to fruition either.  let&#039;s also consider that even with the budget surplus, the national debt to gdp was higher under clinton than it was under bush.  war costs always seem to include the normal costs of having and operating a military and for some reason don&#039;t deduct that amount, so i&#039;m not sure what the true figures are, but so what?  the govt spends money that companies get that employ 10&#039;s of thousands of people, that goes back, etc, etc.  govt spending is a large part of our economy.  so what if the dollar is weaker overseas?  no one was crying when the dollar was strong, although it made our manufactured goods more expensive.  we can&#039;t have our cake and eat it too.  sometimes things have to balance out, let foreigners buy more u.s. manufactured goods for a change so u.s. gets the benefit.  let foreigners come to the u.s. and spend their money on u.s. tourism versus americans spending on overseas tourism.  it&#039;s as if people think we should be spoiled forever.  and to top it off, no one was complaining when the economy was doing oh so very well the past 7 years, just like no one was complaining up to the tech bubble either.  here&#039;s something, both sides could stop spending so there wouldn&#039;t be a need to raise taxes.  you don&#039;t need revenue if you don&#039;t spend.  to think that if either obama or clinton get voted into office will change much in terms of federal budget (not much the pres can really do in real terms), military operations (why do you think the u.s. hasn&#039;t been able to stop committing forces to the Balkans even after mr. clinton said we&#039;d only be there for 1 year and we are still there 12 years afterwards?),</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the economy is fine.  the economy did expand the past 7 years, hard to see with all the doomsdayers saying over and over and over again that the sky is falling.  we were supposed to be in a recession three quarters ago, then two quarters ago, then one quarter ago.  i&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll get there considering all the self fulfilling prognosticating going on.  if the economy hasn&#8217;t been doing so well the past 7 years then i&#8217;m not sure why all the indices have increased over the past 7 years even with the current dip, but that is just me.</p><p>the post was heavily pro-dem over tones, yet the dems have controlled the house and senate the past 3 years and no one on either side has been willing to stop spending even in though the sky is falling.  even under clinton&#8217;s budget surplus (republican control house and senate BTW), which didn&#8217;t do anything to the national debt BTW, also made speculative assumptions that gave way to increased spending and never came to fruition either.  let&#8217;s also consider that even with the budget surplus, the national debt to gdp was higher under clinton than it was under bush.  war costs always seem to include the normal costs of having and operating a military and for some reason don&#8217;t deduct that amount, so i&#8217;m not sure what the true figures are, but so what?  the govt spends money that companies get that employ 10&#8242;s of thousands of people, that goes back, etc, etc.  govt spending is a large part of our economy.  so what if the dollar is weaker overseas?  no one was crying when the dollar was strong, although it made our manufactured goods more expensive.  we can&#8217;t have our cake and eat it too.  sometimes things have to balance out, let foreigners buy more u.s. manufactured goods for a change so u.s. gets the benefit.  let foreigners come to the u.s. and spend their money on u.s. tourism versus americans spending on overseas tourism.  it&#8217;s as if people think we should be spoiled forever.  and to top it off, no one was complaining when the economy was doing oh so very well the past 7 years, just like no one was complaining up to the tech bubble either.  here&#8217;s something, both sides could stop spending so there wouldn&#8217;t be a need to raise taxes.  you don&#8217;t need revenue if you don&#8217;t spend.  to think that if either obama or clinton get voted into office will change much in terms of federal budget (not much the pres can really do in real terms), military operations (why do you think the u.s. hasn&#8217;t been able to stop committing forces to the Balkans even after mr. clinton said we&#8217;d only be there for 1 year and we are still there 12 years afterwards?),</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pete</title><link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/#comment-26476</link> <dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:52:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1481#comment-26476</guid> <description>While I can agree that taxes will most likely be going up, and that spending will be as well, I can&#039;t agree that tax cuts are the problem.  with the tax cuts revenues actually increased.  The problem is increased spending by the government and runaway government programs.   And since its an election year the candidates will all be making all sorts of promises about things they&#039;ll be &quot;giving&quot; the electorate - things that will cause our taxes to go up even further.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I can agree that taxes will most likely be going up, and that spending will be as well, I can&#8217;t agree that tax cuts are the problem.  with the tax cuts revenues actually increased.  The problem is increased spending by the government and runaway government programs.   And since its an election year the candidates will all be making all sorts of promises about things they&#8217;ll be &#8220;giving&#8221; the electorate &#8211; things that will cause our taxes to go up even further.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: david</title><link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/#comment-26467</link> <dc:creator>david</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:40:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1481#comment-26467</guid> <description>Very true, Joe, very true. :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true, Joe, very true. <img
src='http://www.mytwodollars.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joe @ SimpleDebtFreeFinance</title><link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/#comment-26464</link> <dc:creator>Joe @ SimpleDebtFreeFinance</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:54:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1481#comment-26464</guid> <description>Point well taken David, but at least while taxes are low I get to keep more of my money, but raising taxes while raising spending just perpetuates the problem. It&#039;s all about me in the now. ;-)
As far as Republicans being the party of small government, that&#039;s a slight misnomer. Fiscal Conservatives (and libertarians) are for a small government, they tend to side more with Republicans than Democrats but that&#039;s not to say that all Republicans are Conservative. In fact, the current crop of Republicans have proven themselves to be anything but conservative in many cases. GW included, but with no line item veto, people can always say things like &quot;the transportation bill is desperately needed and that means we have to accept a bridge to nowhere to get it done.&quot; With a line item veto, there&#039;s no place to hide.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point well taken David, but at least while taxes are low I get to keep more of my money, but raising taxes while raising spending just perpetuates the problem. It&#8217;s all about me in the now. <img
src='http://www.mytwodollars.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>As far as Republicans being the party of small government, that&#8217;s a slight misnomer. Fiscal Conservatives (and libertarians) are for a small government, they tend to side more with Republicans than Democrats but that&#8217;s not to say that all Republicans are Conservative. In fact, the current crop of Republicans have proven themselves to be anything but conservative in many cases. GW included, but with no line item veto, people can always say things like &#8220;the transportation bill is desperately needed and that means we have to accept a bridge to nowhere to get it done.&#8221; With a line item veto, there&#8217;s no place to hide.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: david</title><link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/#comment-26462</link> <dc:creator>david</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:05:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1481#comment-26462</guid> <description>That is true Joe - but you have to start at $0 to make that work. You can cut taxes while you cut expenses, but you cannot cut taxes while over $9 trillion in the hole.
That being said, the Republicans are supposed to be the party of &quot;small government&quot; and &quot;lower expenditures&quot; - but look what they have done in the last 7 years.  I am not sure a line item veto would have done anything, because a lot of the money that was spent was because of GW, not in spite of him.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is true Joe &#8211; but you have to start at $0 to make that work. You can cut taxes while you cut expenses, but you cannot cut taxes while over $9 trillion in the hole.</p><p>That being said, the Republicans are supposed to be the party of &#8220;small government&#8221; and &#8220;lower expenditures&#8221; &#8211; but look what they have done in the last 7 years.  I am not sure a line item veto would have done anything, because a lot of the money that was spent was because of GW, not in spite of him.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joe @ SimpleDebtFreeFinance</title><link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/#comment-26461</link> <dc:creator>Joe @ SimpleDebtFreeFinance</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:39:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1481#comment-26461</guid> <description>&quot;You cannot cut taxes and go on a spending spree&quot;¦&quot;
True.
But why does everyone accept the &quot;fact&quot; that we have to pay more in taxes to &quot;fix&quot; the problem?
The problem is NOT the tax cuts, it&#039;s the run away spending! Raising taxes will only serve to stifle economic growth, not limit government spending.
If the president (any president) had a line item veto, we could at least hold his feet to the fire for the pork that gets passed as part of the business (and spending) congress is actually supposed to enact.
Too many people just go with the herd and agree that we&#039;ve got to raise taxes, instead of having an honest debate over what the role of the government should be and taking a hard look at the spending that doesn&#039;t fall under that role.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You cannot cut taxes and go on a spending spree&#8221;¦&#8221;</p><p>True.</p><p>But why does everyone accept the &#8220;fact&#8221; that we have to pay more in taxes to &#8220;fix&#8221; the problem?</p><p>The problem is NOT the tax cuts, it&#8217;s the run away spending! Raising taxes will only serve to stifle economic growth, not limit government spending.</p><p>If the president (any president) had a line item veto, we could at least hold his feet to the fire for the pork that gets passed as part of the business (and spending) congress is actually supposed to enact.</p><p>Too many people just go with the herd and agree that we&#8217;ve got to raise taxes, instead of having an honest debate over what the role of the government should be and taking a hard look at the spending that doesn&#8217;t fall under that role.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David</title><link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/09/the-economic-stimulus-check-means-higher-taxes-to-come/#comment-26458</link> <dc:creator>David</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:22:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1481#comment-26458</guid> <description>Thanks KMC - exactly.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks KMC &#8211; exactly.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
