Comments on: Is Every Worker About To Get Paid Sick Days? http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/06/26/is-every-worker-about-to-get-paid-sick-days/ A place to discuss money...for the rest of us. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:09:30 -0500 hourly 1 By: Jima http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/06/26/is-every-worker-about-to-get-paid-sick-days/comment-page-1/#comment-27402 Jima Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:19:32 +0000 http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1534#comment-27402 This is a sad fact of the American work force. I work for a major hospitality chain. My employer does provide sick days or better yet PTO-Pesonal Time Off( you can use these hours for sick days and vacation), the hours are accumulated based on the number of hours you work in a quarter for the company. Some of my fellow employees have anywhere up to 200 hours of pto. When business is slow, maybe 30 hrs a week vs the busy season which can be 60 hrs a week, we can add those hours to our checks to supplement the lack of hours as long as it does not put us in over time My only concern about supplementing the checks is that our employer does not advertise and frowns upon us filing for partial unemployment. Because they have to pay some of it. So some people are forced to use those days. (The fact is when we work those busy weeks, we should put extra money aside) Partial unemployment in the state of Tn can only be issued when you have worked a consecutive 3 weeks with less than 20 hours. And after you file, it may be month before you get a check, some people do not receive a check at all. Also if someone is fired or quits our company, they are issued the pto hours in full. But finding out that half the people who work in the private sector do not have sick days, and I'm imagining very few of them have health insurance is an issue. It makes me thankful for the benefits offered by my employer. My employers may not be all that bad. With that said. People still come to work sick, with all the sick time in the world, and spread their germs to the rest of us. The mentality of myself and the people I work with could be that of a workaholic. So I see the reverse, people are not taking advantage of their sick days enough. This is a sad fact of the American work force. I work for a major hospitality chain. My employer does provide sick days or better yet PTO-Pesonal Time Off( you can use these hours for sick days and vacation), the hours are accumulated based on the number of hours you work in a quarter for the company. Some of my fellow employees have anywhere up to 200 hours of pto. When business is slow, maybe 30 hrs a week vs the busy season which can be 60 hrs a week, we can add those hours to our checks to supplement the lack of hours as long as it does not put us in over time
My only concern about supplementing the checks is that our employer does not advertise and frowns upon us filing for partial unemployment. Because they have to pay some of it. So some people are forced to use those days. (The fact is when we work those busy weeks, we should put extra money aside) Partial unemployment in the state of Tn can only be issued when you have worked a consecutive 3 weeks with less than 20 hours. And after you file, it may be month before you get a check, some people do not receive a check at all.
Also if someone is fired or quits our company, they are issued the pto hours in full.
But finding out that half the people who work in the private sector do not have sick days, and I’m imagining very few of them have health insurance is an issue. It makes me thankful for the benefits offered by my employer.
My employers may not be all that bad.
With that said. People still come to work sick, with all the sick time in the world, and spread their germs to the rest of us. The mentality of myself and the people I work with could be that of a workaholic.
So I see the reverse, people are not taking advantage of their sick days enough.

]]> By: jim http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/06/26/is-every-worker-about-to-get-paid-sick-days/comment-page-1/#comment-27384 jim Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:27:01 +0000 http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1534#comment-27384 Hi - I work in a different country to the US and we get a minimum 5 days per year - guaranteed in law. Also, my employer gives us up to 8 days per year family leave, for use when the kids are sick. This makes our lives so much easier and a lot less stressful, as having a few days off in winter to recover from a cold means our earnings are not hit. Also, if the person next to me is sick, I don't want them anywhere near me. I make any of my employees who are ill go home and recover for a day or two. If you come to work sick you are not very productive anyway and all that will end up happening is the rest of the workforce gets ill to. Hi – I work in a different country to the US and we get a minimum 5 days per year – guaranteed in law. Also, my employer gives us up to 8 days per year family leave, for use when the kids are sick. This makes our lives so much easier and a lot less stressful, as having a few days off in winter to recover from a cold means our earnings are not hit.

Also, if the person next to me is sick, I don’t want them anywhere near me. I make any of my employees who are ill go home and recover for a day or two. If you come to work sick you are not very productive anyway and all that will end up happening is the rest of the workforce gets ill to.

]]> By: Jennifer B. http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/06/26/is-every-worker-about-to-get-paid-sick-days/comment-page-1/#comment-27382 Jennifer B. Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:24:37 +0000 http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1534#comment-27382 My workplace doesn't give sick days... instead, if we're sick (or have weather issues-- my workplace was one of the only places in town open during the first days of our horrendous December icestorm, with computers hooked up to generators) we get to take vacation days for the time. Of course, this means that if you're sick with anything less than the bubonic plague you come to work and infect your coworkers so that everyone can be miserable together. "It's only an 103 degree fever... surely I can make it through the day!" Of course, that results in all the productivity of a rock for me AND all the people who catch what I have... which is definitely not good for the company in the end. I'd be in favor of mandatory sick days anytime! My workplace doesn’t give sick days… instead, if we’re sick (or have weather issues– my workplace was one of the only places in town open during the first days of our horrendous December icestorm, with computers hooked up to generators) we get to take vacation days for the time. Of course, this means that if you’re sick with anything less than the bubonic plague you come to work and infect your coworkers so that everyone can be miserable together. “It’s only an 103 degree fever… surely I can make it through the day!” Of course, that results in all the productivity of a rock for me AND all the people who catch what I have… which is definitely not good for the company in the end. I’d be in favor of mandatory sick days anytime!

]]> By: Sunday Morning Link Love | I've Paid For This Twice Already... http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/06/26/is-every-worker-about-to-get-paid-sick-days/comment-page-1/#comment-27367 Sunday Morning Link Love | I've Paid For This Twice Already... Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:32:45 +0000 http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1534#comment-27367 [...] Two Dollars:  Is Every Worker About To Get Paid Sick Days?  My spouse does not, but does get three personal days that could be sick [...] [...] Two Dollars:  Is Every Worker About To Get Paid Sick Days?  My spouse does not, but does get three personal days that could be sick [...]

]]> By: mobody http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/06/26/is-every-worker-about-to-get-paid-sick-days/comment-page-1/#comment-27335 mobody Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:49:59 +0000 http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1534#comment-27335 I work human resources and there are two kinds of folks, those that accrue sick time, and the earners and burners. I work govt so we are very generous with sick time. 15 days a year, 40% cashout after 10 years if you leave. But since a lot of our employees are older and have been here for several years, they do have more health issues and whatnot and it is a good thing that the sick time is there. I have worked places where two people call off and it shuts down the department. But if you have sick days planned into your labor model, its not such a bad hit when someone calls off. The truth is, there will always be people who abuse the system, but I really get tired of people who resent people for taking time off that they earn. I had one company president complain that he hated paying for holidays like memorial day and labor day because it was unfair that the govt made him pay people not to work for him. This out of the mouth of a guy who had 16 weeks of paid vacation every year. Yet the same people will complain that they can't find or keep good workers. If you treat people like they are a tool and not like they are a human being, they will act accordingly. I work human resources and there are two kinds of folks, those that accrue sick time, and the earners and burners. I work govt so we are very generous with sick time. 15 days a year, 40% cashout after 10 years if you leave. But since a lot of our employees are older and have been here for several years, they do have more health issues and whatnot and it is a good thing that the sick time is there. I have worked places where two people call off and it shuts down the department. But if you have sick days planned into your labor model, its not such a bad hit when someone calls off.

The truth is, there will always be people who abuse the system, but I really get tired of people who resent people for taking time off that they earn. I had one company president complain that he hated paying for holidays like memorial day and labor day because it was unfair that the govt made him pay people not to work for him. This out of the mouth of a guy who had 16 weeks of paid vacation every year. Yet the same people will complain that they can’t find or keep good workers. If you treat people like they are a tool and not like they are a human being, they will act accordingly.

]]> By: Tight Fisted Miser http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/06/26/is-every-worker-about-to-get-paid-sick-days/comment-page-1/#comment-27334 Tight Fisted Miser Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:44:59 +0000 http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1534#comment-27334 I'm guessing that Brian was joking about sick days being abused because 40% of sick days were taken on Mondays and Fridays. That would mean 60% of sick days are used Tuesday through Thursday. I’m guessing that Brian was joking about sick days being abused because 40% of sick days were taken on Mondays and Fridays. That would mean 60% of sick days are used Tuesday through Thursday.

]]> By: Brian http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/06/26/is-every-worker-about-to-get-paid-sick-days/comment-page-1/#comment-27324 Brian Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:18:39 +0000 http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1534#comment-27324 People tend to abuse sick days... One study found that 40% of sick days were taken on Mondays and Fridays! People tend to abuse sick days…
One study found that 40% of sick days were taken on Mondays and Fridays!

]]> By: Eli http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/06/26/is-every-worker-about-to-get-paid-sick-days/comment-page-1/#comment-27320 Eli Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:00:27 +0000 http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1534#comment-27320 Wow. I'm getting rather tired of being called a 'resource' by analysts. Wow. I’m getting rather tired of being called a ‘resource’ by analysts.

]]> By: Outsaving the Joneses http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/06/26/is-every-worker-about-to-get-paid-sick-days/comment-page-1/#comment-27313 Outsaving the Joneses Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:21:31 +0000 http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1534#comment-27313 "They can make other employees sick, they are not as productive as healthy employees, and a company providing at least a few sick days is more likely to retain employees as it is seen as a valuable benefit." What gets me is when you have a generous sick leave policy, but people STILL come in to work sick. It's like its a merit badge or something. "I have a viral plague, but I'm going to selfishly drag my ass into work so people will see how much more dedicated I am than everyone else." Then half the office gets sick. Thanks, jerk. “They can make other employees sick, they are not as productive as healthy employees, and a company providing at least a few sick days is more likely to retain employees as it is seen as a valuable benefit.”

What gets me is when you have a generous sick leave policy, but people STILL come in to work sick. It’s like its a merit badge or something. “I have a viral plague, but I’m going to selfishly drag my ass into work so people will see how much more dedicated I am than everyone else.” Then half the office gets sick. Thanks, jerk.

]]> By: john http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/06/26/is-every-worker-about-to-get-paid-sick-days/comment-page-1/#comment-27311 john Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:33:33 +0000 http://www.mytwodollars.com/?p=1534#comment-27311 my employer gives a lot of sick days. it's nice for honest people. however, a lot of people abuse it as most people are sick on mondays and fridays...how convenient. my employer gives a lot of sick days. it’s nice for honest people. however, a lot of people abuse it as most people are sick on mondays and fridays…how convenient.

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