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	<title>Comments on: Everyone Deserves A Health Insurance Plan Like This&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Op-Ed: My Experience &#38; Why We Need Healthcare Reform A.S.A.P. &#124; My Two Dollars</title>
		<link>http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/08/18/moving-to-my-wifes-new-insurance-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-29870</link>
		<dc:creator>Op-Ed: My Experience &#38; Why We Need Healthcare Reform A.S.A.P. &#124; My Two Dollars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bills so far, in addition to the $300+ a month we were paying on our premium. Luckily now we have a great plan through my wife&#8217;s work, but prior to September 1 we were paying for our own private insurance. And in order to make it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bills so far, in addition to the $300+ a month we were paying on our premium. Luckily now we have a great plan through my wife&#8217;s work, but prior to September 1 we were paying for our own private insurance. And in order to make it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Matt, and I am with you about the pay - only certain jobs that pay less in the private sector too pay that too little.  Working in the public sector can provide great pay and great benefits, and sometimes retirement in only 20 years. It&#039;s not a bad way to do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Matt, and I am with you about the pay &#8211; only certain jobs that pay less in the private sector too pay that too little.  Working in the public sector can provide great pay and great benefits, and sometimes retirement in only 20 years. It&#8217;s not a bad way to do it!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public sector (govt) is the way to go. My mother was civil service and we never had to worry about medical/dental expenses or banking fees (credit union).  I never realized how bad everyone else had it till my wife informed me what it was like in the private sector.

When you have a giant pool of govt workers, you can negotiate great deals (like congress&#039; and my health care plan).  That&#039;s why health care should be nationalized - the deals you get with collectivization are just too great.  All industrialized countries do it.  We&#039;re just so capitalistic that we&#039;re getting screwed.

I&#039;ve always said, &quot;companies are great at making widgets, not so great at fulfilling needs.&quot; Let them make widgets freely and with minimal regulation (mostly about safety) and leave the needs to the govt.  Each has its place.  When we nationalize widgets, we head down the road to bread lines but when we privatize needs like health care and water/power we head down the road to great wealth and devastating poverty.

My credit union is not for profit, if they make a profit it comes back to me and other depositors.  Fees for checking? Never heard of it in over 20 years. I work civil myself now and with all the benefits they even pay for my bus fare (that&#039;s a savings of $90/month - no chump change really)

And that ole&#039; chestnut about making less money in exchange for security with a govt job - it&#039;s a myth.  I been in the private sector for a few months here and there and it was a cutthroat nightmare of BS AND it didn&#039;t pay more.  Question the messenger on this stuff.  Who&#039;s telling us that the gov pays less?  Corporate talking point if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public sector (govt) is the way to go. My mother was civil service and we never had to worry about medical/dental expenses or banking fees (credit union).  I never realized how bad everyone else had it till my wife informed me what it was like in the private sector.</p>
<p>When you have a giant pool of govt workers, you can negotiate great deals (like congress&#8217; and my health care plan).  That&#8217;s why health care should be nationalized &#8211; the deals you get with collectivization are just too great.  All industrialized countries do it.  We&#8217;re just so capitalistic that we&#8217;re getting screwed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always said, &#8220;companies are great at making widgets, not so great at fulfilling needs.&#8221; Let them make widgets freely and with minimal regulation (mostly about safety) and leave the needs to the govt.  Each has its place.  When we nationalize widgets, we head down the road to bread lines but when we privatize needs like health care and water/power we head down the road to great wealth and devastating poverty.</p>
<p>My credit union is not for profit, if they make a profit it comes back to me and other depositors.  Fees for checking? Never heard of it in over 20 years. I work civil myself now and with all the benefits they even pay for my bus fare (that&#8217;s a savings of $90/month &#8211; no chump change really)</p>
<p>And that ole&#8217; chestnut about making less money in exchange for security with a govt job &#8211; it&#8217;s a myth.  I been in the private sector for a few months here and there and it was a cutthroat nightmare of BS AND it didn&#8217;t pay more.  Question the messenger on this stuff.  Who&#8217;s telling us that the gov pays less?  Corporate talking point if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: Smart Spending Blog - MSN Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smart Spending Blog - MSN Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;$10,000 in medical bills -- and that&#039;s with insurance...&lt;/strong&gt;

Two encounters with illness have cost David of My Two Dollars and his wife nearly $10,000 out-of-pocket so far this year, and that&#039;s not including the $320 a month they were paying for health insurance premiums. Health care is a huge personal-finance ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>$10,000 in medical bills &#8212; and that&#8217;s with insurance&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Two encounters with illness have cost David of My Two Dollars and his wife nearly $10,000 out-of-pocket so far this year, and that&#8217;s not including the $320 a month they were paying for health insurance premiums. Health care is a huge personal-finance &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carnivals, Festivals and Linklove &#8212; Almost Frugal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnivals, Festivals and Linklove &#8212; Almost Frugal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] happens, is the cost of health insurance. However, after this post by David of My Two Dollars on his wife&#8217;s health insurance coverage, I think we&#8217;re going to move to New Mexico where I&#8217;m going to find a job as a public [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] happens, is the cost of health insurance. However, after this post by David of My Two Dollars on his wife&#8217;s health insurance coverage, I think we&#8217;re going to move to New Mexico where I&#8217;m going to find a job as a public [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am jealous. My hubby doesn&#039;t make a lot of money and we pay $500 for his employer provided health insurance. on top of that, we have $35 copays and $2500 deductibles and $200 for an ER visit. Totally sucks, is stressful, and frustrating. We have considered just switching to a private policy but found we may be saving on monthly payments but what we&#039;d be responsible for in the day to day would be too much to make a difference. the health insurance situation in the US is getting more and more ridiculous by the day. I like FDs idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am jealous. My hubby doesn&#8217;t make a lot of money and we pay $500 for his employer provided health insurance. on top of that, we have $35 copays and $2500 deductibles and $200 for an ER visit. Totally sucks, is stressful, and frustrating. We have considered just switching to a private policy but found we may be saving on monthly payments but what we&#8217;d be responsible for in the day to day would be too much to make a difference. the health insurance situation in the US is getting more and more ridiculous by the day. I like FDs idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison @ This Wasn't In The Plan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison @ This Wasn't In The Plan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to teach in a public school and had insurance similar to what you currently have.  It was wonderful and I didn&#039;t realize how good we had it until I quit to stay home with my son and we depended on my husband&#039;s insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to teach in a public school and had insurance similar to what you currently have.  It was wonderful and I didn&#8217;t realize how good we had it until I quit to stay home with my son and we depended on my husband&#8217;s insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: MITBeta @ Don't Feed The Alligators</title>
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		<dc:creator>MITBeta @ Don't Feed The Alligators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Universal health care in the United States represents the &quot;final frontier&quot; in freedom.  Some would call it socialism, but not having to worry about getting medical care if unemployed, underemployed, having a pre-existing condition, being denied the insurance you do have for ridiculous reasons would be a true freedom.  Think of how many people in this country are tied to jobs that they hate just because they get over-priced health benefits.  Think of how many jobs they would free up if they quit.  All of the insurance company employees could easily get new jobs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Universal health care in the United States represents the &#8220;final frontier&#8221; in freedom.  Some would call it socialism, but not having to worry about getting medical care if unemployed, underemployed, having a pre-existing condition, being denied the insurance you do have for ridiculous reasons would be a true freedom.  Think of how many people in this country are tied to jobs that they hate just because they get over-priced health benefits.  Think of how many jobs they would free up if they quit.  All of the insurance company employees could easily get new jobs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Braunn - that is unreal that a public school system is charging you guys $800 for insurance, thats the highest I have ever heard for a group education plan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Braunn &#8211; that is unreal that a public school system is charging you guys $800 for insurance, thats the highest I have ever heard for a group education plan!</p>
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		<title>By: Braunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Braunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;educators get amazing health insurance plans when they teach at public schools&quot;

Wow...that is quite an impressive package!  Know however, that not all public school systems are created equally.  

My wife has been a public school teacher in TX for a number of years and we have actually just completed a move where she has begun teaching in KS.  Neither of the benefits packages in these states (or, at least, in these particular school systems) is anywhere near as good as you describe.

While the cost to cover just her is/was next to nothing in both cases, and the coverage is decent (though not nearly as good as you describe), the cost to cover the entire family (+spouse, +kids whether 1 or 100) bumped it up to about $800/month.  In either case, we appear to still be subjected to the Robin Hood effect of property tax revenues (schools&#039; primary revenue source) being redirected from major metropolitan areas to more rural areas that just don&#039;t have the tax base.  (On the flip side, our children will actually reap the benefit as they will be attending a different school system than the one my wife now teaches in.)

I expect we&#039;ll see the same arrangement in KS as we did in TX: let the school pay for her and my job cover the rest of us.

While I agree that I&#039;d love to see a more universal application of insurance coverage, I don&#039;t know that Medicare, or the government in general is the answer.  It&#039;s my current opinion that it&#039;s the very relationship between Medicare and Insurance companies, and all the rules and regulations surrounding it, that are a primary cause of skyrocketing health costs to begin with.  Not to mention that I have very little, if any, faith in the government&#039;s ability to &quot;save&quot; me money.  Social Security anyone?

Congrats again on your move.  Hope all is going well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;educators get amazing health insurance plans when they teach at public schools&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow&#8230;that is quite an impressive package!  Know however, that not all public school systems are created equally.  </p>
<p>My wife has been a public school teacher in TX for a number of years and we have actually just completed a move where she has begun teaching in KS.  Neither of the benefits packages in these states (or, at least, in these particular school systems) is anywhere near as good as you describe.</p>
<p>While the cost to cover just her is/was next to nothing in both cases, and the coverage is decent (though not nearly as good as you describe), the cost to cover the entire family (+spouse, +kids whether 1 or 100) bumped it up to about $800/month.  In either case, we appear to still be subjected to the Robin Hood effect of property tax revenues (schools&#8217; primary revenue source) being redirected from major metropolitan areas to more rural areas that just don&#8217;t have the tax base.  (On the <a href="http://www.mytwodollars.com/resources/flip.php" target='_blank'>flip</a> side, our children will actually reap the benefit as they will be attending a different school system than the one my wife now teaches in.)</p>
<p>I expect we&#8217;ll see the same arrangement in KS as we did in TX: let the school pay for her and my job cover the rest of us.</p>
<p>While I agree that I&#8217;d love to see a more universal application of insurance coverage, I don&#8217;t know that Medicare, or the government in general is the answer.  It&#8217;s my current opinion that it&#8217;s the very relationship between Medicare and Insurance companies, and all the rules and regulations surrounding it, that are a primary cause of skyrocketing health costs to begin with.  Not to mention that I have very little, if any, faith in the government&#8217;s ability to &#8220;save&#8221; me money.  Social Security anyone?</p>
<p>Congrats again on your move.  Hope all is going well!</p>
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